Engine on a Chip and micro turbine engines for EV cars

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Engine on a Chip and micro turbine engines for EV cars

Bericht door GTRene » 22 jan 2010, 00:51

ik was aan het zoeken nar een kleine turbine motor die ze willen gebruiken om vol electrische auto's bij te laden mocht het nodig zijn onderweg.

Toen kwam ik dit tegen, is al wel wat jaartjes oud, maar wow wat een aparte mooie techniek, en wat klein :shocking:

dit is een ouder stukje
Tiny engine fits on a chip
Tracy Staedter
Discovery News
Wednesday, 11 October 2006



A component of the micro gas-turbine engine (Image: MIT)
A tiny gas-turbine engine that fits on a 20 cent piece could replace batteries that power laptops, mobile phones, radios and perhaps home generators, its developers say.

The microengine is being developed by a team led by Alan Epstein, a professor of aeronautics and astronautics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

He says the engine could provide five times as much power as a laptop battery for the same cost.

"My laptop battery now runs my computer for about three hours before recharging. A microengine power system, engine plus fuel, with the same weight as the battery should run the laptop for 15 to 20 hours before refuelling," says Epstein.

The engine works on the same principle as a jet engine.

A compressor sucks in air from the outside and compresses the air. Fuel injectors add fuel to the compressed air and the mixture gets ignited.

Epstein's engine will run on a variety of fuel, including kerosene, propane, ethanol, methanol or hydrogen.

The hot gas produced expands rapidly to turn a turbine, which turns a coil inside a magnet to generate electricity.

A jet engine has thousands of parts assembled into the few components that comprise the compressor, combustion chamber and turbine.

Epstein's microengine only has two parts: a moveable rotor and a stationary structure that together function as the compressor and combustor.

And this jet engine would fit into a matchbox. The compression chamber is about the size of a pencil eraser, the fuel injectors are pen-point holes and the turbine is about the size of a 10 cent piece.

Manufacturing on a small scale

Such teeny components require a much different manufacturing process than large-scale jet engine parts.

Epstein and his team, like other researchers in this field, turn to the field of microelectromechanical systems, or MEMS, which is used to fabricate miniature devices ranging from computer chips and biological sensors to chemical processors.

They etch out the parts from wafers of silicon. The etching requires incredible accuracy with little or no room for error.

"They are bringing the field of MEMs to levels that a few years ago would have seemed impossible," says Carlos Fernandez-Pello, a professor of mechanical engineering at the University of California, Berkeley.

Like a car engine

Pello's team is working on a similar micro system that works like a car engine.

A bigger challenge for Epstein may be getting the individual components to work as a single engine, says Pello.

At that tiny scale, the heat produced can spread across the whole device, causing parts to expand and not work well.

But if they can find a way to insulate the combustor from the other components, a final working product would be about the size of a cigarette lighter, with the engine on top and the fuel below.

"The size of that [cigarette] lighter is the size of two AA batteries. But the time it would give you power, it's potentially 100 times more ... maybe 50 or 60 hours," says Pello.

Such a microengine would be as safe as a pocket lighter, too, he says.

How about emissions?

Epstein says that his microengine will produce one-hundredth the emissions that a rechargeable laptop battery produces indirectly during the recharging stage, as it draws electricity from the grid.

So far, the microengineered components have been micromachined, tested individually and assembled into the 20 cent piece-sized test engines.

Now the team has to add fuel and demonstrate a working engine, something Epstein thinks can be accomplished within the next 12 months.

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hier een verhaaltje en wat antwoorden

http://thefutureofthings.com/articles/4 ... -chip.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ze willen ook kleine gasturbines inzetten voor bv de electrische auto's om de range te verlengen...niet die superkleine dingen maar toch, vrij apart :mrgreen: gaaf.

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dan is dit wel ff wat anders

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Re: Engine on a Chip

Bericht door frankv » 22 jan 2010, 10:49

prachtig! maar wat zou dat kosten? je zit dan toch wel in horloge uurwerk technologie en die zijn zoals we weten niet goedkoop, maar erg mooi

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Re: Engine on a Chip

Bericht door GTRene » 22 jan 2010, 11:57

frankv schreef:prachtig! maar wat zou dat kosten? je zit dan toch wel in horloge uurwerk technologie en die zijn zoals we weten niet goedkoop, maar erg mooi
ik zou het niet weten, maar als ze het op heel veel apperaten gaan toepassen wordt het wel betaalbaarder...ik heb een later artikel gevonden....ook voor de electrische auto's, maar veel nog in ontwikkelingsfase

http://green.blorge.com/2009/10/turbo-c ... -from-mtt/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Micro turbine technology is also being explored as a less expensive, cleaner, lighter engine to recharge the battery in extended range electric vehicles. Currently internal combustion engines are primarily used for this purpose. Unfortunately, the engines used today weigh a considerable amount adding to the weight of such extended range cars like the Chevy Volt. Reducing the size and weight of what is essentially an auxiliary engine will increase the range of the cars as well as provide space for other components or storage.
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de microturbine is natuurlijk helemaal gaaf, maar ook al gaaf een kleine turbine die de accu's van deze sportwagen oplaad..

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LA Auto Show this month, the Capstone CMT-380 prototype is an automotive beast unlike anything we’ve ever seen. Rather than mixing batteries and a conventional engine, this whip combines the former with a diesel / biodiesel-powered microturbine, which is — for all intents and purposes — a jet engine. Reportedly, the car can reach 60MPH from a standstill in just 3.9 seconds, hit 150MPH before being cut off by the electronic limiter, cruise 80 miles on battery power alone and drive from Idaho Falls to Spokane on just a single tank of fuel. It’s being bruited about that the company is considering flipping this bad boy into the production line, but with an estimated asking price north of $200,000, there’s sufficient evidence to think that the volume here

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Re: Engine on a Chip and micro turbine engines

Bericht door GTRene » 22 jan 2010, 14:45

nog een interessant verhaal wat bij die auto hoort maar ook over dat bedrijf


http://www.capstoneturbine.com/news/story.asp?id=536" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
What is a Microturbine?

The CMT-380's 30-kilowatt microturbine features an electric generator and turbine components mounted on a single shaft, which is supported by air bearings -- so there are no liquids to lubricate or cool the microturbine. It uses a patented combustion system to achieve extremely low exhaust emissions that do not require expensive exhaust after treatm
Capstone microturbines can run on a variety of fuels, including natural gas, waste methane from landfills, biodiesel, diesel, kerosene and propane. Microturbine efficiency increases when used in Combined Heat and Power (CHP) and Combined Cooling Heat and Power (CCHP) applications that utilize waste heat energy produced by the microturbines to recapture and heat water or buildings, or run through an absorption chiller to create air conditioning
interesant, lijkt me een prima oplossing om bv een volledige EV auto de range te verlengen door de accu's bij te laden met zo'n soort aggregaat als een kleine turbine motor.

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Re: Engine on a Chip and micro turbine engines

Bericht door GTRene » 22 jan 2010, 14:51

We caught up with the Capstone Turbine stand and the incredible CMT-380.
The gist is that there are many wanna-be super cars lately and while some are truly inspirational, the CMT-380 throws in a twist.

Turbine Powered PHEV. A turbine powered plug-in hybrid, PHEV is bound to raise questions and a few eyebrows. This car came about when Richard Hilleman wanted to use GTM’s rolling chassis and make it the world’s first hybrid-electric sports car powered by a micro-turbine. Why?

Technically Speaking. With 240hp, 0 to 60 in 3.9 seconds, an electronically limited 150 mph and a range of 500 miles, it is clearly above the competition. It can go 80 miles on its battery pack alone before the whizzing of the micro-turbine kicks in, liking it to an idling F16 jet. The micro-turbine is rated at 30 kW and spins at speeds up to 96,000 rpm. The battery pack can be charged in an hour and the overall mpg is about 150.


How Much? Before we answer that question, let it be said that Capstone Turbine is toying around with the idea of building a limited series for $30,000 but would be more interested in selling it to a car maker.


Eco-Friendly Performance. The turbine powered car is very eco-friendly and unconfirmed sourced have pitted at polluting less than a Prius… with the added performance.

And the best part is we will have a test drive for you within the next few month
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Capstone Turbine CMT-380 GTM PHEV

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Re: Engine on a Chip and micro turbine engines for EV cars

Bericht door romo » 22 jan 2010, 20:31

Oh wat mooi allemaal................................heerlijk dit soort ontwikkelingen..............

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Re: Engine on a Chip and micro turbine engines for EV cars

Bericht door GTRene » 26 jan 2010, 15:34

nog zo'n auto die met een microturbine erbij voor een viol EV car als range extender zorgt.

http://www.zerauto.nl/blog/index.php/20 ... rijgt-micr" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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De Amerikaanse sportautofabrikant Velozzi heeft de eerste foto’s vrijgegeven van de Solo Concept. De Velozzi Solo is een mix tussen een SUV en een sedan. Hij krijgt volgens de bedenkers een plug-in hybride aandrijving met een microturbine als ‘range extender’.

De microturbine van de Solo is volgens Velozzi geschikt voor een breed scala brandstoffen: benzine, diesel, ethanol, methanol, butanol, biodiesel, en aardgas. Het chassis is vervaardigd uit duurzame lichte materialen zoals carbon. Het duurzame karakter van de Solo hoeft geen invloed te hebben op de prestaties van de auto.

Velozzi is nog aan het rekenen om een brandstofverbruik van rond de 2 l/100 km te realiseren. De elektrische krachtbron moet de auto in minder dan 4 seconden naar de 100 km/uur stuwen en een topsnelheid van 210 km/uur realiseren. Naar verwachting begint de productie van de Solo in 2012. Velozzi werkt ook nog aan een supersportauto (Supercar geheten) die eveneens volledig elektrisch is

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