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Official: BMW onthult Green Sports Car Concept op IAA

Bericht door Joop » 30 jul 2009, 13:39

Volgens CarScoop komt BMW naar zeggen van Klaus Draeger (Member of the Board of Management of BMW AG, Development) met een (Mid-engined) Green Sports Car Concept wat de strijd moet aan gaan met de R8 en de 911
CarScoop schreef: Wednesday, July 29, 2009

In what could be described as a 'hot-cold shower' type of announcement, in addition to confirming their decision to pull out from Formula One racing at the end of the 2009 season, BMW officials also revealed today that the Bavarian automaker will swipe the covers off an all-new 'green' sports car concept at the Frankfurt Motor Show in September. The announcement was made by Klaus Draeger, Member of the Board of Management of BMW AG, Development, at the press conference on the realignment of the German firm's motor sports activities.

"Sustainability is becoming increasingly important," said Draeger in his speech. You will see a product of sustainable development at the IAA in Frankfurt in a few weeks in the form of a concept car. The BMW EfficientDynamics Vision will demonstrate how efficient a sports car can be. It will also prove that sustainability does not apply to the drive train alone, but to design and materials as well".

"Anyone who takes a closer look at this concept car will understand the direction in which we are developing our technology. And it will become evident that we will have to dedicate more human and financial resources to this type of development work," Draeger concluded.

Although Draeger did not get into any specific details, previous reports suggest that the concept sports car study may very well act as a teaser for a production model that could hit the market as soon as 2012 rivaling the likes of the Audi R8 and Porsche 911.

It has also been reported that BMW's 'green' supercar will be a two-seater mid-engined coupe equipped with the latest fuel-saving technologies from BMW's Efficient Dynamics programme including direct injection, brake energy regeneration and stop-start systems plus enhanced aerodynamics.

As for the EfficientDynamics Vision's looks, your guess is as good as ours, but hopefully we'll see something in the likes of Idres Noah's independent concept study which you can check out in detail here.
De auto die Idres Noah bedacht heeft is hier ook al eens langs gekomen, nu maar hopen dat BMW iets soortgelijks op vier wielen zet:

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Re: Official: BMW onthult Green Sports Car Concept op IAA

Bericht door romo » 30 jul 2009, 14:00

BMW; The Ultimate Green Machine...................................

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Re: Official: BMW onthult Green Sports Car Concept op IAA

Bericht door Joop » 30 jul 2009, 14:01

:mrgreen:

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Bericht door romo » 30 jul 2009, 14:02

BMW; The Ultimate Mean Machine................................had ik dan persoonlijk liever..........

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Re: Official: BMW onthult Green Sports Car Concept op IAA

Bericht door duifjes.com » 30 jul 2009, 18:28

Te veel R8 uiterlijkheden.....no go..

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Re: Official: BMW onthult Green Sports Car Concept op IAA

Bericht door Erik K. » 30 jul 2009, 18:40

duifjes.com schreef:Te veel R8 uiterlijkheden.....no go..
Valt toch wel mee? Zo lijkt een R8 ook op een McLaren F1

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Re: Official: BMW onthult Green Sports Car Concept op IAA

Bericht door Joop » 30 jul 2009, 18:44

duifjes.com schreef:Te veel R8 uiterlijkheden.....no go..
Dit is het ontwerp niet Jacco...

...is nog een vrije interpretatie van de journalisten die het stukje hebben geschreven. Waarschijnlijk wordt toch die M1 concept nog bewaarheid.

Hoe de auto er echt uit gaat zien zullen we vlak voor de beursgang wel krijgen te zien (opening IAA voor de pers 15 september).

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Re: Official: BMW onthult Green Sports Car Concept op IAA

Bericht door duifjes.com » 30 jul 2009, 19:25

@Joop....oh. gelukkig.....

En als de R8 op een F1 MC lijkt is dat een compliment....

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Re: Official: BMW onthult Green Sports Car Concept op IAA

Bericht door romo » 30 jul 2009, 22:06

Scotty;

Sustainable does not mean over 500 PS. It's a Hybrid Sports car.

"What can BMW do to rival the Ferrari 458 Italia?"

As we done when the rivalry between the enzo , SLR and Carrera GT was in full swing. Sit back and watch our rivals get torn apart by a car that absolutely outclasses them in every turn like what the Enzo done.
Product planning is such a vicious circle and the results can be harsh when you go against a new Ferrari.

When the Enzo et all were under development we began working on "Efficient Dynamics" for future mobility solutions which is what we did before and why we are the leading premium manufacturer of sustainability because we invested in it at the right time , Audi and Mercedes-Benz were working on their upper level sports cars whilst we were developing Efficient Dynamics to which our competitors are scrambling to catch up. "Efficient Dynamics" in our cars have brought new customers and an increase of sales to the BMW brand and this will not be substituted because we do not have an image building supercar or poor driving high performance models like our competitors.

Also BMW are working on a variety of performance models that will reflect sustainability and performance underneath "Efficient Dynamics". M division will become the pinnacle of "Efficient Dynamics".


En nogmaals;

I am not denying that it could be an R8 Slayer if it wanted to be , but things have progressed far enough in europe in relation to emission regulations that manufacturers have to look at introducing new applications to motor vehicles in able to meet the future emission regulations.

Since we introduced "Efficient Dynamics" in January 2007 with the 1er Sporthatch BMW have achieved it's first goal in it's long term strategy , we upset the competition and left them hurrying to catch up.
Now we are moving to our next phase of Efficient Dynamics with the BMW Active Hybrid 7 and BMW Active Hybrid X6. And next year we will launch the BMW Active Hybid 5.

In regards to the Audi R8 , BMW done a competitive autospy on one and when down to the chassis it was the exact same as the Lamborghini Gallardo,
Audi can make the R8 because of it's dependence on the Gallardo.
BMW would have to develop a platform on it's own which means the BMW would not be as cost effective as an R8.

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Re: Official: BMW onthult Green Sports Car Concept op IAA

Bericht door romo » 30 jul 2009, 22:11

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Smoelt wel lekker......................................ja die wil ik wel, ook al zit er misscien een electromotor in..................... :mrgreen:

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Re: Official: BMW onthult Green Sports Car Concept op IAA

Bericht door Joop » 06 aug 2009, 00:41

Ben alleen bang dat het geen R8 look-a-like gaat worden... :hmmm:

Waarschijnlijk een Z-model (Z6?):

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Re: Official: BMW onthult Green Sports Car Concept op IAA

Bericht door Joop » 06 aug 2009, 00:42

Nog een stukje van Scott als reactie:
Scott schreef:The car is extremely important not as only in Efficient Dynamics but also in design as traditional BMW design elements are interpreted further and they will make it to production cars.
The first car you will see with un upturned grille will be the next generation BMW 1er Coupe and followed by the BMW Z2 Roadster and Coupe.

The car is a four door and you are looking at a further addition to our progressive series the GT.

The Sports GT in Progressive Movement :
The BMW 6er .

Taing an almighty leap from the much maligned by the media BMW Concept Z9 Gran Turismo at the IAA in September 2009.
BMW simplified the styling , smoothing out the proportions , and liposuctioning the fat and adding conventional typical everyday features such as eliminating the concept door openings to present the first 6er Coupe since the successful , popular E24 6er at the IAA in 2003.

Unveiling the 6er Coupe presented it's audience witha striking highly modern design , muscular proportions , a typical sports car feel with the driver placed way back and a (at launch) powerful V8 engine - 645i and eventually followed by a six cylinder 630i , with progressive changes involving the upgraded V8 (650i) and as an addition recently to boost it's intentions the highly proper 635d.

Even though the car was green-lighted in 2001 before seeing the light of day in 2003 , The BMW 6er has become a classic BMW in the modern sense. Even by todays standards the 6er looks modern if not very futuristic? even the controversial (to some) rear end and bootlid has successfully been intergrated to the cars overall appeal.
Today a 6er has that ability to make you stop and stare as it passes , muscular especially when equipped with the large wheels intended for this car invokes its especially individually tailored bodywork and the right footwear gives it a purpose.
Following the Coupe , BMW went further for it's intended market and introduced a 6er Cabrio , again beautifully designed , especially with a very unique soft-top design and great proportions and specific design requirements when removing the Coupe hardtop leaving the design intact with a completely flat area strectching from the bootlid to the A pillar.

Since it's introduction in early 2004 the 6er Coupe and Cabrio have become successful additions to BMW's premium market strategy , sales have been especially strong in key areas of europe , The US market and the UK.

A feat BMW are hoping to repeat with the next generation of the 6er, aiming at the great character and individual design as the current 6er , the next 6er takes an evolutionary approach instead of a completely radical new beginning. But there are elements and many features BMW plan to incorporate into it's effectively premium Sports car concept.
As well as taking on the role of a Coupe , BMW will follow the lead set from it's extremely successful integration of a collapsible hardtop in the E93 3er Cabrio by replacing the existing 6er Soft-Top with collapsible hardtop. A Hardtop for this segment indicates premium and BMW aim to capture the attention and premium image the 3er Cabrio inherited in the premium sports car segment.
An additional model currently being developed for decision is an additional model of the BMW "progressive" segment "GT" which will be a Premium Sports car with four doors , not a typical sedan , coupe shape , The GT 6 will be a car that will be a "progression" of a sports coupe - It will also be the first BMW Coupe with a hatchback and four doors which will open hinged from the rear ,strictly a four seater , each passenger position and the driver are seperate with a large sweeping console seperating the cockpit.
Exterior wise will follow with a different look to the 6er Coupe and Cabrio which take their wide grille opening and headlights which sit above the grille positioned on each corner , similar to the current car from the CS Concept Car , although not direct interpretations there is a resemeblance. The headlights when looked side on are heavily raked into the front wings to give a more dynamic sporting look , typical of the 6er flared wheel arches remain intact and will retain the 6ers muscular proportions. at the lower level of the flanks there is more sculpture which gives a connection to the latest 7er and 5er , A strong shoulder line is typical on this car again inverting into the rear lights.
Although forgoing the current cars stepped bootlid . The new car receives an integrated bootlid although design elements integrate an evolutionary look to the rear end with the licence plate again relegated to the rear bumper
.As the Cabrio forgoes the current car and it's unique soft-top. The F13 recieves a no compromise design related collapsible hardtop.
When we say "No Compromise" it means the same exact formula the designs put forward to the engineers on the E93 that the body had to be completely flat along the boat line and no stepped up rear end to accomodate the hardtop. BMW understanding that in this segment you have to have a beautifully engineered to perfection feel and seeing how the 3er stacks up to it's competition , especially if you compare the E93 3er to the Lexus IS C you can understand the requirement for prefection especially in the premium sports car segment.
Although the car inherits a 3 piece hardtop , everything that goes against a hardtop is designed and engineered in this car.

Engine choices will remain consistent with the current car with the choice of the Twin-Turbo Six Cylinder and V8 of 326PS(635i) and 407PS(650i) respectively.
Diesel choice will fall on two models the lower Six cylinder diesel (635d) and the indevelopment and destined for this car the Tri-Turbo Six Cylinder diesel delivering a 700Nm and 354PS.
BMW will offer a Hybrid model being a mild hybrid as destined for the X6 and 7er later this year (655i)

The about shift in the 6er programme will incorporate the latest 8speed Transmission as well as a 7 speed DCT Transmission.
To make the 6er appeal more to Sporting enthusiasts a new damping system will offer 4 different sport settings from comfort right through to performance , including an option for efficient performance. Allowing the car to drive frugal and efficient.
BMW "Efficient Dynamics" Will of course be engineered into the car utilising typical areas as Stop-Start and Brake Energy Regeneration.
Driving enthusiasts will take well to the new 6er if they believe the current car is too tame for a 6er. BMW want to really set the cat amongst the pigeons and offer a very establishing cross continent GT that goes as well as it looks so as soon as the driver pushes the start button , and presses that accelerator he knows that he is in a very dynamic sports car. To which with a press of button the driver can choose a setting that fullfills their requirements.

The drivers cockpit takes it's cues from the latest Z4 and replaces the upright look of the current car with a driver integrated facia , The main centre air ducts are almost flat on the dash with the iDrive screen integrated to the top of the dash but without the current cars seperate pod.


As far the M6? There will be an M6 but final suggestion to specification has not been decided. If the M6 does come BMW will offer the M6 in all 3 body styles.

F12 BMW 6er Coupe
F13 BMW 6er Cabrio
F14 BMW 6er Gran Turismo

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Re: Official: BMW onthult Green Sports Car Concept op IAA

Bericht door GTRene » 06 aug 2009, 10:06

wow :love: als ie maar iets op dat ding gaat lijken uit de begin post hebben ze mijn goedkeuring :clap: :df: mooi man

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Re: Official: BMW onthult Green Sports Car Concept op IAA

Bericht door romo » 06 aug 2009, 10:45

Ik weet het niet................. :hmmm: :hmmm:

Echt enthousiast ben ik niet, maar even september afwachten...................

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Re: Official: BMW onthult Green Sports Car Concept op IAA

Bericht door romo » 07 aug 2009, 07:29

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OMG....................................may the force be with BMW ( dat gaan ze nodig hebben :bag: )



Rent en passant naar de Mitsu dealer.......................


Laat dit vooral een concept blijven................

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Bericht door Jelmer850i » 07 aug 2009, 12:34

hij mag er van mij komen 8)

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Bericht door Miesjel » 07 aug 2009, 12:37

Vies lelijk apparaat..

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Re: Official: BMW onthult Green Sports Car Concept op IAA

Bericht door GTRene » 07 aug 2009, 19:20

beetje een Evo neus zo...maar je kan zien dat dit wat getekent is toch? :roll: hm...I don't know eerst eens zien :mrgreen:

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Bericht door EJGT3CS » 07 aug 2009, 19:26

Ziet er niet uit! Maar respect voor die shop zeg! :shock:

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Bericht door romo » 10 aug 2009, 12:31

Nog een impressie..........................


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Bericht door GTRene » 10 aug 2009, 12:47

lijkt me de GT..en lol @Romo :mrgreen:

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Re: Official: BMW onthult Green Sports Car Concept op IAA

Bericht door Michel P » 10 aug 2009, 13:00

Neus veels te hoog.

Eerste schetsen waren hoopvol.

Michel

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Bericht door romo » 10 aug 2009, 13:29

Michel P schreef:Neus veels te hoog.

Eerste schetsen waren hoopvol.

Michel

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Re: Official: BMW onthult Green Sports Car Concept op IAA

Bericht door Joop » 29 aug 2009, 13:32

Zo te zien wordt de bovenstaande vierdeurs niet de beloofde Green Sports Car:
BMW's Secret Concept is a Diesel-Electric Plug-in Hybrid Coupe, Fast as an M3, Frugal as a Prius

We know that many of you are dying to learn about BMW's Vision EfficientDynamics sports car concept that's due to make its first public outing in Frankfurt so let's just say that here's the inside scoop. In a nutshell, it's a futuristic-looking, diesel-electric plug-in hybrid sports car with 2+2 seating, and no, it has nothing to do with the four-door coupe car seen in this set of spy shots that circulated around the net.

Power comes from a high-performance hybrid drivetrain that combines a small displacement three-cylinder diesel engine with two electric motors.

We were told that the total output of the diesel engine and the electric motors will be somewhere around 350 horsepower and that thanks to the lightweight construction and various high-tech features, the Vision EfficientDynamics concept will be as fast as BMW's own M3 sports car but at the same time, as fuel efficient and 'green' as a Toyota Prius hybird.

Another significant detail is that the prototype model can run on either the diesel engine, the electric motors or a combination of the two and from what we learned, the vehicle's battery pack can be partially charged through regenerative braking or fully charged from any standard outlet.

There's more to come this weekend so stay tuned on Carscoop but in the meantime, check out the official teaser on BMW's concept car below.

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