Alles over de E90/E92/E93 M3 (part II)

[Martijn]

Don`t shoot the messenger............................

Anyway, SS2 is gaaf, maar momenteel bij bij mij staat het sein nu op Jerez Schwarz

Jerez heeft net als Carbonschwarz een blauwe gloed toch? Lijkt mij iig ook dé kleur voor een M3 Coupe.

[RutgerK]

Het schrappen van een nieuwe CSL versie maakt de huidige weer wat specialer en exclusiever. Dat is denk ik goed nieuws voor de huidige bezitters van een CSL.

[wooter]

Ik weet zelfs niet ofdat je wel een CSL van de huidige M3 kan maken... De huidige M3 is nog meer dan z'n voorgangers een GT dan een circuitmonster... Van de S5 kan je ook niet 1-2-3 een Porsche concurrent maken...

[romo]

Don`t shoot the messenger............................

Anyway, SS2 is gaaf, maar momenteel bij bij mij staat het sein nu op Jerez Schwarz

Jerez heeft net als Carbonschwarz een blauwe gloed toch? Lijkt mij iig ook dé kleur voor een M3 Coupe.

Dat klopt, kleuren hebben wel wat overeenkomsten.

Het mooie van die kleur; de naden van de motorkap naar de grille is minder zichtbaar, is IMHO zeer storend bij de lichte kleuren ( er zit te veel ruimte tussen, het lijkt alsof de motorkap niet goed dichtzit)
Tevens maakt zwart de ( gestrekte auto) compacter en meer gedrongen.

Het vervelende; je poetst je een ongeluk en het lijnenspel komt minder uit de verf.........................

[romo]

Leuk verslagje van e90post;


I currently have an MY2009 E90 M3 MT on order. I should be taking delivery around mid-to-late October. I went to the dealership today where I ordered my car (Advantage BMW Clear Lake, Texas) to finally test drive a DCT M3 for comparison.

I will have to say that I am a purist when it comes to sports cars, but the DCT transmission is pretty nice! The shifts are extremely quick, but slightly jerky under full throttle. I currently drive a C6 Corvette, so I am not overly impressed with the rubbery feeling shifter in the MT. I prefer shorter throws and a notchier feel when the shift lever is thrown into gear. I still am planning on sticking with the manual transmission, but the DCT has me thinking otherwise now about possibly making the switch. If I stick with the manual, I will definitely have to swap out the shifter for a short-throw lever in the near future.

The M3 is eactly how everyone describes it...very fast car, but it doesn't throw you back in the seat like my Vette or a car with substantially more torque.

On my way back home, I passed by a Mercedes Benz dealership where they had a silver C63 AMG sitting on one of the entrance pedestals. I immediately pulled in to check it out. After telling the salesman that I had a M3 on order, he extended the offer to let me test drive the Merc. The Merc is slightly more expensive (at least than my E90 M3) on sticker price and they were also asking a $5K premium - Strike 1. We went for the test drive and I can easily verify that the exhaust note on the Merc blows away the M3. Not to take anything away from the M3, the Merc is just better sounding. The torque and low end pull in the Merc is fantastic. Much better than the M3, but what would you expect with about 150 ft-lbs more torque. The ride however is very rough (extremely firm). The BMW rides 10X better. My Corvette evens has a more compliant ride than the Merc. The front seats are brilliant and the I-Drive "like" navi unit seems better thought out than the BMW, but that is where the interior advantages end. The BMW is more comfortable to drive/ride in and seems to have a higher quality interior than the Merc. Road noise is also quite a bit less in the M3 as the doors seem to seal perfectly. The Merc seemed to handle well (I wasn't able to push the limits at all), but the BMW seems light years better.

All-in-all, I still like the M3 better than the C63 AMG (especially for the price). Anyone who is looking for a 4-Door drag car, buy the Merc, or better yet, wait to buy the 2009 CTS-V, otherwise, the M3 is definitely the best blend of sports car, comfort, handling, and everyday liveability. As far as the DCT vs. MT, it all comes down to personal preference.

[Erik K.]

http://www.autoweek.nl/nieuws.php?id=9628

De CSL-versie van de vorige generatie BMW M3 kent een grote schare liefhebbers. Slecht nieuws voor deze autoliefhebbers: de E92 M3 krijgt niet zo’n supersportieve variant.

Althans, als we Car Magazine mogen geloven. De M3 CSL stond op de planning voor de zomer van 2009, met het gebruikelijke recept: meer vermogen en een lager gewicht. Het vermogen van de M3 CSL zou uitkomen op ongeveer 460 pk, het leeggewicht zou dankzij intensiever gebruik van koolstofvezel met ongeveer 100 kilogram dalen.
De M-divisie van BMW heeft een streep gehaald door het project, omdat deze zich wil richten op de M-versies van de X5 en de X6. Eerder kwam ook al het nieuws dat BMW de productieversie van M1 Hommage schrapt. Oorspronkelijk wilde BMW deze auto in productie nemen om de Audi R8 weerwoord te bieden.

From a recent Auto Motor un Sport interview with Ludwig Willisch:

"No market for a BMW M3 Touring"

"No BMW M3 CSL" "... at the moment"

"The US market 50% chooses BMW M3 in manual gearbox"

"No BMW M supercar coming soon (BMW M1)"

"M versions of the BMW X5 and X6 will come" "will hit the market end of next year"

"Ceramic brakes will come as an option on several BMW M models"

Ben toch wel stiekum benieuwd naar de X5 en X6 M modellen.

[skinnybmw]

Leuk verslagje van e90post;


I currently have an MY2009 E90 M3 MT on order. I should be taking delivery around mid-to-late October. I went to the dealership today where I ordered my car (Advantage BMW Clear Lake, Texas) to finally test drive a DCT M3 for comparison.

I will have to say that I am a purist when it comes to sports cars, but the DCT transmission is pretty nice! The shifts are extremely quick, but slightly jerky under full throttle. I currently drive a C6 Corvette, so I am not overly impressed with the rubbery feeling shifter in the MT. I prefer shorter throws and a notchier feel when the shift lever is thrown into gear. I still am planning on sticking with the manual transmission, but the DCT has me thinking otherwise now about possibly making the switch. If I stick with the manual, I will definitely have to swap out the shifter for a short-throw lever in the near future.

The M3 is eactly how everyone describes it...very fast car, but it doesn't throw you back in the seat like my Vette or a car with substantially more torque.

On my way back home, I passed by a Mercedes Benz dealership where they had a silver C63 AMG sitting on one of the entrance pedestals. I immediately pulled in to check it out. After telling the salesman that I had a M3 on order, he extended the offer to let me test drive the Merc. The Merc is slightly more expensive (at least than my E90 M3) on sticker price and they were also asking a $5K premium - Strike 1. We went for the test drive and I can easily verify that the exhaust note on the Merc blows away the M3. Not to take anything away from the M3, the Merc is just better sounding. The torque and low end pull in the Merc is fantastic. Much better than the M3, but what would you expect with about 150 ft-lbs more torque. The ride however is very rough (extremely firm). The BMW rides 10X better. My Corvette evens has a more compliant ride than the Merc. The front seats are brilliant and the I-Drive "like" navi unit seems better thought out than the BMW, but that is where the interior advantages end. The BMW is more comfortable to drive/ride in and seems to have a higher quality interior than the Merc. Road noise is also quite a bit less in the M3 as the doors seem to seal perfectly. The Merc seemed to handle well (I wasn't able to push the limits at all), but the BMW seems light years better.

All-in-all, I still like the M3 better than the C63 AMG (especially for the price). Anyone who is looking for a 4-Door drag car, buy the Merc, or better yet, wait to buy the 2009 CTS-V, otherwise, the M3 is definitely the best blend of sports car, comfort, handling, and everyday liveability. As far as the DCT vs. MT, it all comes down to personal preference.

Altijd interessant om de ervaringen te lezen van mensen die de auto's ook echt rijden. Maar meningen zullen altijd verschillen...zoals hij ook zegt. Ik had verwacht dat de M3 minder comfortabel zou zijn dan de C63 AMG...

[Andre]

CSL versie heeft geen nut op dit moment.

BMW heeft al wat gedaan om het gewicht te minimaliseren. Carbon dak. Plastic spatborden etc. De auto is gewoon te groot om een stuk lichter te maken. Door de groei van de 3 serie in formaat is het gewicht ook gestegen.

Dan komt er nog bij dat er ca. 1400 csl zijn gemaakt. Maar door de hoge prijs het niet een verkoop succes was. En auto s lang bij de dealer in showroom stonden.

Ik zou als ik bmw M was meer optie mogelijkheden op een gewone M3 zetten. Zoals CSL achtige stoelen en andere remmen om mee te beginnen.

[Robin]

Leuk verslagje van e90post;


I currently have an MY2009 E90 M3 MT on order. I should be taking delivery around mid-to-late October. I went to the dealership today where I ordered my car (Advantage BMW Clear Lake, Texas) to finally test drive a DCT M3 for comparison.

I will have to say that I am a purist when it comes to sports cars, but the DCT transmission is pretty nice! The shifts are extremely quick, but slightly jerky under full throttle. I currently drive a C6 Corvette, so I am not overly impressed with the rubbery feeling shifter in the MT. I prefer shorter throws and a notchier feel when the shift lever is thrown into gear. I still am planning on sticking with the manual transmission, but the DCT has me thinking otherwise now about possibly making the switch. If I stick with the manual, I will definitely have to swap out the shifter for a short-throw lever in the near future.

The M3 is eactly how everyone describes it...very fast car, but it doesn't throw you back in the seat like my Vette or a car with substantially more torque.

On my way back home, I passed by a Mercedes Benz dealership where they had a silver C63 AMG sitting on one of the entrance pedestals. I immediately pulled in to check it out. After telling the salesman that I had a M3 on order, he extended the offer to let me test drive the Merc. The Merc is slightly more expensive (at least than my E90 M3) on sticker price and they were also asking a $5K premium - Strike 1. We went for the test drive and I can easily verify that the exhaust note on the Merc blows away the M3. Not to take anything away from the M3, the Merc is just better sounding. The torque and low end pull in the Merc is fantastic. Much better than the M3, but what would you expect with about 150 ft-lbs more torque. The ride however is very rough (extremely firm). The BMW rides 10X better. My Corvette evens has a more compliant ride than the Merc. The front seats are brilliant and the I-Drive "like" navi unit seems better thought out than the BMW, but that is where the interior advantages end. The BMW is more comfortable to drive/ride in and seems to have a higher quality interior than the Merc. Road noise is also quite a bit less in the M3 as the doors seem to seal perfectly. The Merc seemed to handle well (I wasn't able to push the limits at all), but the BMW seems light years better.

All-in-all, I still like the M3 better than the C63 AMG (especially for the price). Anyone who is looking for a 4-Door drag car, buy the Merc, or better yet, wait to buy the 2009 CTS-V, otherwise, the M3 is definitely the best blend of sports car, comfort, handling, and everyday liveability. As far as the DCT vs. MT, it all comes down to personal preference.

Altijd interessant om de ervaringen te lezen van mensen die de auto's ook echt rijden. Maar meningen zullen altijd verschillen...zoals hij ook zegt. Ik had verwacht dat de M3 minder comfortabel zou zijn dan de C63 AMG...

Dit is waarschijnlijk een repost, sorry:)

Spreewaldring, Berlijn: C63 vs Lexus ISF vs M3 E90:

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Benz motor is het krachtigst, maar kijk wie de snelste ronde heeft(by a margin:))

[Andre]

test tegen de GTR



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[René130i]

Slechte review. Weinig argumenten.

[Andre]

rene doe nou even leuk mee.

Als ik straks die schokbreker van jou moet afstellen dan zet ik ze vol op onderstuur.

[René130i]

Hahaha machtig Goeie zaak, dan heb ik het audi gevoel weer wat terug

[Macboy]

Hier meer foto's van die Dakargelb individual kleur:






(sommige losers kunnen echt geen foto's maken jezus als je 4 foto's maakt en dit is het resultaat )

[Christoph]

Vet

[Tom]

Vind het wel gewaagd 8)

[Topfuel]

AFGRIJSELIJK!

[Arthur]

Vind hem iets te licht of dof, wel gewaagd als je die kiest.

[romo]

Bekend bij iemand?


http://www.bhp-motorsport.de/detailansi ... odell=2537" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Mark Nauta]

Toch vind ik die Dakargelb wel erg lekker hoor. Blijft toch een echte M3 kleur in mijn ogen.

[romo]

Atlantis blau;

[Arthur]

Beetje saai.
Wellicht handig als je een M3 hebt

[Rivanov]

Vind Dakargelb een prachtige kleur! Mooier dan dat Atlantis Blau.

[Andre]

Romo hoe staan de zaken ervoor. Kunnen we ons samen inschrijven voor het groot vaarbewijs.

[romo]

Romo hoe staan de zaken ervoor. Kunnen we ons samen inschrijven voor het groot vaarbewijs.

Morgen middag weet ik meer.................................

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