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Cadillac ATS krijgt 270 pk 2.0 turbo

Bericht door Dennis Cavallino » 17 dec 2011, 00:37

De op stapel staande Cadillac ATS wordt een BMW 3 serie en Mercedes C-klasse concurrent. Sportief en luxe, met RWD. Met de 2.0turbo krijg je 30 pk meer dan de directe concurrent: de 328i. Hopelijk daalt de Euro niet verder en krijgen we met deze Caddy een bargain op de Nederlandse markt... Gedurende de zomer van 2012 gaat ' ie in productie.


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New Cadillac ATS to Debut at the 2012 NAIAS with a 270 Horsepower 4 Cylinder

Cadillac is poised to announce the all new ATS which debuts a new 3.6-liter V6, a 2.5-liter four cylinder, and a new-generation 2.0-liter turbocharged Ecotec four that can reach 270 horsepower. That is really impressive for a 2.0 4 cylinder and I have a feeling that the 2.0T is going to be a popular choice with Cadillac customers.

While a relaxed, naturally aspirated V6 and a fuel efficient inline-four comes as no surprise, the new 2.0 turbo caught our attention. The high-performance, direct-injection 2.0 turbo is tuned to produce 270-hp. Translating to 135-hp/liter, GM boasts that its power dense engine has greater horsepower per liter than the BMW M3, Porsche 911 GTS, or Lamborghini Aventador (although these are all lack forced induction). Most importantly, the turbo 4-cylinder ATS packs 30-hp more than the turbo 4-cylinder found in the 2012 BMW 328i.

GM powertrain officials noted that the 2.0T Ecotec found in the ATS is 95 percent brand new compared to the 2.0T found in the Buick Regal GS. The new 2.0T features direct-injection, four-valves/cylinder with continuously variable valve timing, twin-scroll turbocharger with air-to-air intercooler, forged steel crankshaft with modular balance shaft system, and a two-stage variable displacement oil pump with jet-spray piston cooling.

“This engine is the perfect match for the new ATS, which will be a refined performance luxury sedan,” said Don Butler, Cadillac vice president of Global Marketing. “The 2.0T has an exceptionally smooth and responsive power curve that will make the ATS nimble, quick and fun to drive.”

The new 2.0T highlights a broad engine lineup that will power the ATS which is slated to begin production next summer. Cadillac will also offer a normally aspirated 2.5L four cylinder engine and a 3.6L V-6 engine in the ATS.

The 2.0T builds on the advanced-technology heritage of previous GM turbo engines with features that enhance efficiency, durability and refinement.

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Re: Cadillac ATS krijgt 270 pk 2.0 turbo

Bericht door Dennis Cavallino » 09 jan 2012, 10:56

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Meer nieuws over de ATS: http://www.driving-fun.com/2680/home/ne ... Serie.aspx

Als je alle specs van de fabrikant leest, dan is het toch een verrassend interessante auto. Veel lichtmetalen onderdelen. Een ideale gewichtsverdeling. Een lange wielbasis, breed op z'n wielen die op de hoeken staan met korte overhang voor en achter.

Nog interessanter: het sportpakket krijgt instelbare magnetic ride dempers, een sperdiff en een korter stuurhuis met meer stuuruitslag van ZF.

De 2.0 turbo benzine is imho de meest interessante motor die er tussen zit.

Als ze hier een wagon-versie van maken moet ik alweer mijn shortlist aanpassen.... ik blijf bezig.
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Re: Cadillac ATS krijgt 270 pk 2.0 turbo

Bericht door Dennis Cavallino » 09 jan 2012, 11:00

It's the eve of the Detroit Auto Show, and Cadillac officially kicked things off tonight by unveiling its 2013 ATS sedan at Detroit's College for Creative Studies. Why CCS? Many of the college's graduates go on to work in areas of automotive design, and as Ed Welburn, General Motors' Vice President of Global Design, tols us, over 170 CCS graduates currently work within the larger GM design team, 20 of which directly worked on the ATS project. After getting our first impressions of the ATS in the flesh, we must indeed applaud those designers.

The ATS rides on an all-new rear-wheel-drive platform, and the end result is car that's about eight inches shorter in length than the larger CTS sedan. Cadillac's Art & Science design language has been updated for the smaller sedan, with angular lines and flat surfaces found throughout the four-door's styling. Sure, Cadillac is quite proud of the way the ATS looks, but what's most important about this car is its performance. After all, the ATS will go head-to-head with the likes of the BMW 3 Series and Audi A4, so on the road, it has to be good.

The ATS is around 100 pounds lighter than a comparable Audi A4, while packing a more powerful engine lineup.

A key factor to the ATS' development was lightness, and GM's North American President, Mark Reuss, stated that the new sedan will be "the most mass-efficient car in the segment." Weighing in at less than 3,400 pounds, the ATS is around 100 pounds lighter than a comparable Audi A4, while packing a more powerful engine lineup. The base engine is a 2.5-liter naturally aspirated inline-four, putting out 200 horsepower and 188 pound-feet of torque, which should be good for over 30 miles per gallon on the highway. The real points of interest are the new turbocharged 2.0-liter four and 3.6-liter V6. The up-level turbo four should be good for around 270 horsepower, and the larger direct-injected V6 will send 318 hp to the ground. Transmission choices include a six-speed manual or automatic gearbox, and both rear- and all-wheel drive will be available.

The ATS will get a diesel engine in its first life-cycle.

During the presentation, Reuss also confirmed that the ATS will get a diesel engine in its first life-cycle, though specific details are unavailable as of this writing. We know that GM is already working on a small diesel mill for the Cruze sedan, so the new oil-burning ATS could use a version of this engine, if not the same exact one.

As for how the ATS will perform on the road, we'll have to wait until we get our first stint behind the wheel later this year, but things do indeed look promising. In addition to a 50/50 front/rear weight distribution, the ATS will use GM's Magnetic Ride Control, and will have "the best steering I've ever tested," as Reuss stated. Vice President of Cadillac Marketing, Don Butler, says the ATS' key development themes were to make it "nimble, quick, [and] fun."

It certainly sounds promising, and if all this goodness comes to live out on the pavement, we only have one thing to say: Bring on the V.
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2013 Cadillac ATS Challenges the Status Quo

• All-new, lightweight, rear-wheel-drive architecture with one of the lowest curb weights in the segment – less than 3,400 pounds (1,542 kg)
• Broad lineup of engines, including two four-cylinders and a V-6 for North America, capitalizes on lightweight structure for performance with efficiency
• Cadillac CUE, a comprehensive, in-vehicle experience that merges intuitive design with auto industry-first controls and commands for information and entertainment data

DETROIT – Cadillac today introduced the 2013 ATS, an all-new compact luxury sports sedan intended to challenge the world's best premium cars. Developed on an all-new, lightweight vehicle architecture, Cadillac's entry into the world's most significant luxury car segment goes on sale this summer.

The rear-drive ATS brings Cadillac's blend of technologically driven performance, elegance and design to a new audience of spirited drivers. Its sophisticated driving experience is enhanced with Cadillac CUE, a comprehensive, in-vehicle user experience that merges intuitive design with industry-first controls and commands for information and media data.

"Designed with quick, nimble and fun-to-drive dynamics, ATS expands Cadillac's portfolio into a crucial global segment," said Don Butler, vice president of marketing for Cadillac. "For a new group of luxury consumers, this is a car that will fit their lifestyle and challenge the segment's status quo."

The Cadillac ATS is a new expression of Cadillac's Art & Science execution philosophy, built on a foundation of driving dynamics and mass efficiency. It is the most agile and lightweight Cadillac, with one of the lowest curb weights in the segment – less than 3,400 pounds (1,542 kg).

Germany's famed Nürburgring served as one of the key testing grounds, along with additional roads, racetracks and laboratories around the globe, ATS engineers balanced performance with Cadillac's trademark refinement. Contributing components and features include:
• Nearly 50/50 weight balance
• Cadillac's first five-link independent rear suspension using lightweight, high-strength steel and efficient straight link designs
• A multi-link double-pivot MacPherson-strut front suspension with direct-acting stabilizer bar
• Driver-adjustable FE3 sport suspension with Magnetic Ride Control real-time damping
• Underbody aerodynamic shields
• Premium (belt driven) electric variable-effort steering gear from ZF Steering Systems
• Four-channel ABS with available Brembo performance brakes
• Available all-wheel drive

"More than just another new entry, the ATS aims to change the status quo of the European-dominated segment," said Butler. "That is why our approach in all elements of its development is so extensive and focused."

A broad lineup of engines – including two four-cylinders and a V-6 for North America – delivers strong power to the ATS and capitalizes on the car's lightweight structure to complement its performance with efficiency. The optional engines include an all-new 2.0L turbocharged four-cylinder rated at 270 horsepower (201 kW) and Cadillac's award-winning 3.6L V-6, estimated at 318 horsepower (237 kW).

At 135hp/L, the new 2.0T is one of the most power-dense engines in the industry, topping engines from European competitors. ATS will offer both manual and automatic transmission options, along with rear-wheel and all-wheel-drive configurations.

The ATS will deliver peak highway fuel economy of more than 30 mpg.

A spirit of lightness and balance
Making the ATS one of the segment's lightest cars was a fundamental criterion for and the guiding principle during its development, but it was done in a nuanced manner that ensures a refined driving experience.

"Low weight gives the ATS a more nimble and controllable feel, while also optimizing the performance and efficiency of the powertrains," said David Masch, ATS chief engineer. "But we were careful to manage the weight while maintaining Cadillac's signature levels of refinement."

Optimizing the ATS's mass was the result of a four-pronged philosophy that included strict adherence to original architectural goals, measured load management throughout the vehicle, benchmarking components to see if lighter solutions were available and an overall culture that "weighed" the mass of every component in the car against all aspects of its development.

An aluminum hood, magnesium engine mount brackets and even lightweight, natural-fiber door trim panels contribute to the ATS's low overall mass – and reflect the systematic approach of evaluating every gram that went into the car. But some weight was deemed not only beneficial, but essential to the ATS's driving experience. An example is the cast iron differential: Engineers found they could improve fuel economy with a cast iron differential rather than a lighter aluminum version.

And while the rear suspension is mostly steel, the focus on load management and straight links enabled significant weight savings without using alternate materials. This helps offset the weight of the engine and transmission at the front of the vehicle, helping the ATS deliver its near-perfect 50/50 weight balance, while also contributing to lower noise and vibration. A similar approach was taken on the wheels, where extra structural aluminum was strategically added to further reduce vibration.

"We approached development by counting all the grams in the ATS," said Masch. "We minimized them where we could and put them to the best use where they were needed."

Tailored design weaves in signature style and refinement
The 2013 Cadillac ATS interprets Cadillac's Art & Science design language in a new proportion, tailoring the signature styling and refinement cues for the most compact Cadillac while upholding – and advancing – the exemplary attention to detail and technological elements for which the brand is known.

A long, 109.3-inch (2,775 mm) wheelbase and wide front/rear tracks are the cornerstones of the ATS's firmly planted stance, which is enhanced by short overhangs and taut sheet metal that appears to wrap tightly around the tires. Seventeen-inch wheels are standard and 18-inch wheels are available.

Bold vertical lighting elements – including new LED front signature lighting detail – as well as illuminating door handles and active grille shutters lend technologically advanced style and function to the ATS. The grille shutters close at certain highway speeds to reduce aerodynamic drag and enhance fuel economy.

A driver-focused interior with integrated technology and crafted materials complements the exterior elements and supports the ATS's driving experience. Everything from the placement of the pedals to the position of the shifter is designed for effortless and intuitive performance driving. Available performance seats have power-adjustable bolsters to optimize lateral support during high-load cornering.

Contributing to the interior's intuitive feel is an instrument panel that wraps into the doors and a center stack in the mid-instrument panel that flows into the center console. LED lighting for the bold gauge cluster enables clear, at-a-glance viewing in all lighting conditions, while ambient lighting accents functional elements of the console and doors.

Real wood, plated metal plating and carbon fiber trim and Cadillac's cut-and-sew cut-and-sew instrument panel, console and doors enhance the emotional connection to the ATS. Choices of many interior color themes, each with unique accent trim material, cover a wide range of flavors – from light, open and warm to black and serious, to bold, technical and sporty.

CUE and ATS technologies
The ATS is offered with Cadillac CUE, a comprehensive, in-vehicle experience that merges intuitive design with auto industry-first controls and commands for information and entertainment data. It is designed to be unique for each consumer, from the "simple user" to the fully connected "super user."

CUE, which stands for Cadillac User Experience, pairs entertainment and information data from up to 10 Bluetooth-enabled mobile devices, USBs, SD cards and MP3 players with a vehicle infotainment system that reduces complexity through customized information, voice commands and fewer buttons and larger icons. For example, most of today's luxury cars have around 20 buttons controlling the radio and entertainment functions. CUE has only four.

The heart of CUE is the eight-inch LCD multi-touch sensitive screen, seamlessly integrated into the top of the central instrument panel and a motorized fully capacitive faceplate at the bottom concealing a 1.8L storage area. The vibrant LCD screen displays CUE's home page, which resembles a smart phone's screen by using large, easy-to-target icons to execute commands. Capacitive technology refers to using electrodes to sense the conductive properties of objects, such as a finger.

In addition to CUE, the ATS is offered with other technologies, including:
• Bluetooth phone connectivity with voice recognition
• USB, auxiliary and SD memory card ports
• SiriusXM Satellite Radio with three-month trial subscription
• Keyless access and keyless push-button start
• Reconfigurable 5.7-inch instrument panel cluster display
• Full-color reconfigurable heads-up display.

The ATS is offered as a well-equipped standard model and in Luxury, Performance and Premium Collections. A Bose® Cabin Surround audio system is offered on the standard model, as well as Luxury and Performance Collections. It is standard with the Premium Collection. A navigation system is also available with Luxury and Performance Collections and standard with the Premium Collection.

'Control and alert' safety strategy
Safety in the ATS is based on Cadillac's "control and alert" strategy that employs advanced technologies – including radar, cameras and ultrasonic sensors – to help prevent crashes.

The safety features bolster driver vision and awareness of road hazards, and intervenes to help the driver avert potential crashes. In some cases, Cadillac's advanced crash-avoidance systems will act without the driver, such as automatic braking, which will activate based on information indicating potential hazards.

Among the most sophisticated of the features is Front and Rear Automatic Brakes. This relies on short-range radar technology and ultrasonic sensors to help the driver prevent front and rear low-speed collisions via a progression of alerts that extend to complete braking, if necessary.

Optional advanced safety features include:
• Full Speed Range Adaptive Cruise Control
• Intelligent Brake Assist
• Forward Collision Alert
• Brake Pre-Fill Automatic Collision Preparation
• Lane Departure Warning
• Side Blind Zone Alert
• Rear Vision Camera With Dynamic Guidelines
• Adaptive Forward Lighting
• Hill Hold/Start Assist (Standard, manual transmission)

The advanced technology safety features complement the ATS's roster of other safety features, including eight standard air bags (10 with optional features), safety belt pretensioners and load limiters, StabiliTrak electronic stability control system with traction control and four-wheel disc brakes with four-channel ABS.

ATS also features OnStar standard for one year. It can use GPS and cellular phone technology to automatically call for help in the event of a crash. OnStar service also includes myCadillac and OnStar myLink mobile apps, which offer vehicle information, controls and OnStar services via the customer's iPhone or Android smart phone.

About Cadillac
Cadillac has been a leading luxury auto brand since 1902. In recent years, Cadillac has engineered a historic renaissance led by artful engineering and advanced technology. More information on Cadillac can be found at media.cadillac.com.

2013 CADILLAC ATS PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS

Overview
Model: Cadillac ATS Sedan
Body style / driveline: 4-door luxury sport luxury sedan, RWD/AWD
Construction: Unitized welded steel body with direct-mounted front cradle and rubber-isolated, multi-link independent rear suspension
EPA vehicle class: small car
Manufacturing location: Lansing Grand River Assembly, Lansing, Mich.

Engines
2.0L Turbo DI VVT 2.5L I-4 DI VVT 3.6L V-6 DI VVT
Displacement (cu in / cc): 122 / 1998 150 / 2457 217 / 3564
Bore & stroke (in / mm): 3.39 x 3.39 / 86 x 86 3.46 x 3.97 / 88 x 101 3.7 x 3.37 / 94 x 85.6
Block material: cast aluminum cast aluminum cast aluminum
Cylinder head material: cast aluminum cast aluminum cast aluminum
Valvetrain: DOHC, four-valves per cylinder, continuously variable valve timing DOHC, four valves per cylinder, continuously variable valve timing DOHC, four valves per cylinder, continuously variable valve timing
Fuel delivery: direct high-pressure fuel injection direct high-pressure fuel injection direct high-pressure fuel injection
Compression ratio: 9.2:1 11.4:1 11.5:1
Horsepower (hp / kW @ rpm): 270 / 201 @ 5300 (est) 200 / 149 @ 6200 (est) 318 / 237 @ 6800 (est - gas)
Torque (lb-ft / Nm @ rpm): 260 / 353 @ 2400 (est) 188 / 255 @ 4500 (est) 267 / 362 @ 4900 (est - gas)
Recommended fuel: premium recommended but not required regular unleaded regular unleaded or E85
Maximum engine speed (rpm): 6350 7000 7200
Estimated fuel economy: TBD TBD TBD

Transmissions
Tremec M3L TR3160 Hydra-Matic 6L45
Type: fully synchronized six-speed manual with single overdrive six-speed, electronically controlled, automatic overdrive with torque converter clutch
Gear ratios (:1):
First: 4.12 4.06
Second: 2.62 2.37
Third: 1.81 1.55
Fourth: 1.30 1.16
Fifth: 1.00 0.85
Sixth: 0.80 0.67
Reverse: 3.75 3.20
Final drive ratio: 3.27 3.27 (2.5L, 3.6L)
3.45 (2.0T)

Chassis / Suspension
Configuration: rear-wheel drive
Differential: open (FE2 suspension); mechanical limited-slip (FE3 suspension)
Front: MacPherson-type with dual lower ball joints and direct-acting stabilizer bar; Magnetic Ride Control (FE3)
Rear: independent five-link with monotube shock absorbers; Magnetic Ride Control (FE3)
Steering type: ZF rack-mounted electric, power-assisted and variable assist
Steering ratio: FE2: 16.8:1
FE3: 15.3:1
Steering turns, lock-to-lock: FE2: 3.16
FE3: 2.86
Turn circle (ft / m): FE2 RWD: 36.38 / 11.09
FE3 RWD: 35.99 / 10.97
FE2 AWD: 38.05 / 11.60
Chassis control: four-channel StabiliTrak w/ brake assist and traction control

Wheels and Tires
Wheel size and type: 17x8-inch aluminum (painted)
17x8-inch aluminum (polished)
18x8-inch aluminum (machined-face)
18x8-inch aluminum (polished)
Tire size: P225/45R17 90H all-season
P225/45R17 90V run-flat all-season
225/40R18 92V run-flat all-season
225/40R18 88W / 255/35R18 90W run-flat summer-only
225/35ZR19 88Y / 255/30ZR19 91Y run-flat all-season (LPO)

Brakes
Type: four-wheel disc with sliding calipers on base; four-channel ABS/TCS w/ DRP; Brembo brakes with fixed calipers on Luxury, Performance and Premium collections
Rotor type and thickness (in / mm): Standard front: 11.8 x 1.02 (300 x 26) vented, with Ferritic Nitro Carbunized process for corrosion resistance
Standard rear: 12.4 x 0.90 (315 x 23) vented, with Ferritic Nitro Carbunized process for corrosion resistance
Uplevel front: 12.6 x 1.18 (321 x 30) vented, with Ferritic Nitro Carbunized process for corrosion resistance
Uplevel rear: 12.4 x 0.90 (315 x 23) vented, with Ferritic Nitro Carbunized process for corrosion resistance

Dimensions

Exterior
Wheelbase (in / mm): 109.3 / 2775
Length (in / mm): 182.8 / 4643
Height (in / mm): 55.9 / 1421
Width (in / mm): 71.1 / 1805
Track (in / mm): front: 59.5 / 1512
rear: 60.9 / 1548
Curb weight (lb / kg): less than 3,400 / 1,542 (approx.)
Weight distribution (% front / rear): 51 / 49

Interior
Legroom (in / mm): front: 42.5 / 1079
rear: 33.5 / 851
Headroom (in / mm): front: 38.6 / 980
rear: 36.8 / 935
Shoulder room (in / mm): front: 55.2 / 1345
rear: 53.9 / 1370
Hip room (in / mm): front: 53.0 / 1345
rear: 52.3 / 1328

Capacities
Seating capacity (front / rear): 2 / 3
EPA passenger volume (cu ft / L): 90.9 / 2573
EPA trunk volume (cu ft / L): 10.2 / 290
Trailer towing maximum (lb / kg): 1000 / 454 (3.6L)
Fuel tank (gal / L): 16 / 60.5
Engine oil (qt / L): TBD
Cooling system (qt / L): 8.1 / 7.7 (2.0T)
7.1 / 6.7 (2.5L)
11 / 10.4 (3.6L)

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Note: Information shown is current at time of publication.

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Bericht door Wouter81 » 09 jan 2012, 12:04

Ik vind het serieus een mooie auto! Deze designstijl van ze bevalt me wel. Specs zijn ook goed.

4 Dingen zijn belangrijk:

- Rijdt het even goed als een 3-serie?
- Hoe is de kwaliteit van het interieur? Kan dat concurreren met de Duitsers?
- Wat wordt de prijs in NL?
- Hoe staat het met restwaarde (Waarschijnlijk matig...)

Indien dit alles redelijk tot goed uitpakt is het ook hier een kandidaat. Dan uiteraard met dat sportpakket met mechanisch sperdiff. Super!

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Bericht door Wouter81 » 09 jan 2012, 19:27

Snap er niks van dat behalve Dennis en ikzelf niemand hier op DF geinteresseerd lijkt. De specs zijn toch super? Magnetic Ride, 50/50 gewichtsverdeling, mechanisch sper, 270 PK uit een 2 liter, getest en ontwikkeld op de Ring.... natuurlijk nog even de reviews afwachten maar de vooruitzichten zijn super.

Betere specs dan de concurrentie (F30 328i) maar blijkbaar is het hier zooooo BMW minded (brainwashed) dat we blind zijn voor alternatieven. :)

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Bericht door MartijnGizmo » 09 jan 2012, 19:36

Wouter81 schreef:Betere specs dan de concurrentie (F30 328i) maar blijkbaar is het hier zooooo BMW minded (brainwashed) dat we blind zijn voor alternatieven. :)
What's new?

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Bericht door Snipe » 09 jan 2012, 19:39

Wouter81 schreef:Snap er niks van dat behalve Dennis en ikzelf niemand hier op DF geinteresseerd lijkt.
Gisteren ongeveer 5.000 bezoekers voor DF. Er waren er 11 die het bericht op de frontpage over de ATS lazen.
Ergens niet zo gek. Met de BLS, een verbouwde Vectra, als voorganger zullen de verwachtingen niet bij iedereen hooggespannen zijn. Bovendien is die BLS zo'n beetje grootste afschrijvingsdrama ooit: http://www.driving-fun.com/1549/home/ne ... jvers.aspx

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Bericht door Wouter81 » 09 jan 2012, 19:41

Tja..... beetje raar IMO, als je als een blinde slaaf achter 1 merk aan loopt. Zelfs als die een shitproduct uitbrengen (nieuwe 1 serie bijvoorbeeld) hebben we hier in notime een topic met 80 miljard replies.

Ik ben totaal niet merkgebonden en als ik puur naar specs kijk is dit aantrekkelijker dan een 328i. Alleen nog even de prijs en reviews afwachten. Ik ben tot nu toe enthousiast over deze auto. :) Zou mooi zijn als deze ergens in de buurt van de 40k blijft qua prijs, voor de 2 liter turbo dan. Dat is zoals Dennis al aangeeft de meest interessante.

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Bericht door JP » 09 jan 2012, 19:51

Van die achterkant, daar word ik niet vrolijk van...

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maar dit jaar komen er meer leukere, en snellere modellen uit van rond de €40k, dus de keuze is reuze.

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Bericht door Tom » 09 jan 2012, 21:15

Wouter81 schreef:Tja..... beetje raar IMO, als je als een blinde slaaf achter 1 merk aan loopt. Zelfs als die een shitproduct uitbrengen (nieuwe 1 serie bijvoorbeeld) hebben we hier in notime een topic met 80 miljard replies.
+1 Wouter

Al ben ik nog niet overtuigd door deze auto... ziet er op papier goed uit maar dat doen meer amerikanen.. ben wat dat betreft iets meer afwachtend.
Lijnen zijn wel mooi trouwens.

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Bericht door Dennis Cavallino » 09 jan 2012, 23:59

Dat de BLS erbij wordt gehaald... Die auto was gedoemd te mislukken met de naam als afkorting van Bullshit.

Deze ATS heeft alles mee:
- looks
- bijzondere techniek
- 'lichtgewicht bouw'
- luxe en sportief tegelijk
- op papier al indrukwekkende specs
- RWD
- Fijn stuurhuis (non-GM, maar ZF)
- 51/49 balans
- Sper als onderdeel van het sportpakket

2.0 turbo met variabele schoepen, directe injectie, intercooler etc etc
Evt een V6 voor de atmo-jankers en een Diesel voor de anti-Bmw leasers.

De snelle Caddy's van de laatste jaren waren al aardig (understatement) om mee te driften, met een geweldige sound van de V8-en, maar niemand kocht ze hier (mede door Kroymans), maar van deze ATS verwacht ik veel meer. Dit wordt een alleskunner met een hoog DF-gehalte.

Eens wat betreft de looks van de kont op deze sedan. Een wagon moet het worden... :)

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Re: Cadillac ATS krijgt 270 pk 2.0 turbo

Bericht door Wouter81 » 11 jan 2012, 16:20

Filmpje met paar bewegende beelden: http://www.autojunk.nl/2012/01/cadillac ... troit-2012

Mooi ding, interieur is ook wel cool.

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Re: Cadillac ATS krijgt 270 pk 2.0 turbo

Bericht door Wouter81 » 25 okt 2012, 12:06

Nou, de prijzen zijn bekend. De 2.0T gaat minimaal 51.000 euro kosten in Nederland.

Een vergelijkbare 328i (met betere restwaarde) is er vanaf 43k.

KANSLOOS

Erg jammer, auto stond bij mij serieus op de shortlist. Maar met zo'n debiele prijsstelling verkopen ze er in heel Nederland misschien 2 of 3 denk ik. :bag:

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Re: Cadillac ATS krijgt 270 pk 2.0 turbo

Bericht door MartijnGizmo » 25 okt 2012, 12:12

De Nederlandse pers rijdt er gisteren/vandaag mee, dus reviews zullen nu snel overal opduiken...

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Re: Cadillac ATS krijgt 270 pk 2.0 turbo

Bericht door Shakes » 25 okt 2012, 17:40

- Rijdt het even goed als een 3-serie?
- Hoe is de kwaliteit van het interieur? Kan dat concurreren met de Duitsers?
- Wat wordt de prijs in NL?
- Hoe staat het met restwaarde (Waarschijnlijk matig...)
Nee
Waardeloos en nee
Te hoog
Te laag

Next.

Heb er geen glazen bol voor nodig.

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Re: Cadillac ATS krijgt 270 pk 2.0 turbo

Bericht door RVV » 25 okt 2012, 18:11

LOL@Shakes

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